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I am curious of what your thoughts and felings or even mere speculations or fantasies of what the post mortem life holds.

Are there a myriad of dimensions a spirit may exist upon? Do we just shut off and decay? Are there etherial entitiyes that we meet or become? Do we recycle back into a larger more vast consciousness? Are we reborn? Do we become everything?

I have a few theories that I see as possiblities, but it all sums down to for me I do not see "life" of the spirit to end. I do not think death is an end, yes for the body; no for the energy or spirit or soul or maybe even consciousness(to an extent) or whatever you may call it...

I believe it would take a bottle of wine and some serious time and probably some like huge dry erase boards, for me to expalin to you a large part of what i think- not fully believe, merely think- could be true. BUt untill then: what do you think believe or claim to know.

In some ways I hope we carry on to see our loved ones again in the afterlife, but honestly I think it is much more likely that we simply cease to exist upon our death. I know that is a very difficult concept for people to accept, especially people that have experienced extreme tragedy, like parents losing a child (which, to me, is the worst possible thing imaginable that a human can experience). But, personally, I don't think of my soul as a seperate entity from my body and mind. IMO, in all probability, the soul is conceived, developed, and eventually dies just like the body and mind, because it is part of the body and mind. Like I said, I hope that I'm wrong: I'd love to rejoin my loved ones that pass before me, and be joined by my kids and grandkids when their time comes, in a heavenly state, but I don't actually see that as the most likely course of nature.

Well, I have had some pretty odd "happenings" in my life to not believe in the "soul" I do think it is linked closely to the mind and fuels the body. I do see the probibility of the "soul" being a creation of our own minds, being quite high. But I either have seen enough to convince me enough that it is otherwise, or i choose to believe (probably both)

Some of it could be related to the tiny bit of programming that happens from growing up. You tend to pick up on the religious views of your upbringing, though you may not have it being a constant in your life or even a preference of your own, I do see aspects of it in my core..

I cannot tell how much of its influence is choice, belief or just programming. (for lack of a better term)
I do not believe inheaven in the traditional sense. I do not believe that an unconditional entity would condemn those it loves unconditionally to a hell for eternity, based off of conditions set for those loved ones. {I must admit it is had to state that do not believe in hell, purely because of the fear that hell is intended on instilling in one it is quite strong.. the fear}

I am partially a believer in the "reunion" where all who we have once known will be reunited in a joyus occasion. But If that does happen it is only a short transition to the next "realm" I beleive upon death that the "answers" are all bestowed upon you. All the knowledge of god returns to you (for I also believe that it was there prebirth-we just cant communicate it) your answers your puropse your wrongs and rights.. You essentailly become god, you fuse with its presence, as has all who have passed before you have done.

And for an unknown period of time you are just like hat.. perhaps you will be able to view earth from this state, maybe feel earth from "gods view" know earth adn all its beings, and then at some point you may b e given the choice, the choice todo it again.. only this time as some one else, your core essence would be the same.

I think the purpose of our existence is to become as god is through the process of life.. I may be sounding whacked out but these are some of the thoughs that actually float on in my mind..and I have only shared these things with one maybe a few more in bits other person...so bear with me.

I still dont have a solid belief that what i am speculating on is true, I dont even come close to claiming to know, it is just what i feel and think to be potentially true. In the "new life " that the oul would go on to live, you would not be conscious to the knowledge that you had obtained in the "god realm" but your subconsious has this information locked in it.

I believe this is why we can suddenly have epiphanies, or get messages from our dream realm.. we some how stumble on the locks of those specific doorways in the hallway of our subconsious and unlock a new pasage. This information aides us in intuition, in making the"right" decision and guides us through our life.

If we live without listening to these messages, we are met with the opposite of what we had "hoped" to achieve. God entity doesnt make us be the way it wants us to be, it HOPES us to achieve it. It is up to us to do it..

SO yeah there is like a small portion of my scrambled brains, think what you will, dissect how you will, I am content with specultaing on my theory, and look forward to more information to further piece the puzzle together...
wow.. i cant believe i just said all that....

ehh...while i'd like to go on after i die, forever is a long time. and i just haven't been able to embrace faith in such a way that allows me to really believe in a loooong time.


allu- my brain shuts down after about three lines from the huge block of text..really, really- no offence, but do you think i could talk you into making a few paragraph breaks? please

That's awesome, Alluscion! Thanks for sharing. I, too, find myself wondering about, and speculating on, the possibilities of death and afterlife. I like your theory, sort of a hindu "reincarnation" meets Christian/Judean "God in heaven". I like, and hope for, your idea that all is revealed by the "God" upon initially reaching the afterlife. That would be totally RAD (to use a term from my childhood)! All the mysteries of life revealed!

Now here are some of my ramblings:

I "believe" that the hindu's were on the right track with reincarnation, but I see it in a much more pragmatic and "scientific" way. I see a version of reincarnation taking place with the passing of our genes (our code) onto our offspring. My daughter is the "reincarnation" of my wife and I through the random genetic pairings of our chromosomes to make her. And every ancestor of ours is also reincarnated within her (albeit in diminishing capacity as you go back in time, but still there nonetheless).

I am also a person that very much does NOT believe in fate, destiny, or anything "God-given". "Who we are" is a combination of many things, including the traits passed onto us from our ancestors, our early life/childhood experiences, and the region/culture/time we are born into. But, ultimately, and most importantly, I believe that we, as humans, take the preceding "chance/luck/out of our control" circumstances and determine our own life and future. We have our inherent "strengths and weaknesses" that are given us, but WE primarily determine how we choose to use them and deal with them. I do not believe in, and absolutely would not want, an outside "being" predetermining anything about our lives, even if simply a "nudge" that we could ignore. I think the "nudge" we all feel toward certain things over others is simply a result of our genetic soup from our ancestors combined with our early life experiences.

I must apologize. I realize that as I've been writing away I seem to have gotten off topic. My rambling thoughts took me to another realm. Sorry about that.

wow... i just had the bull of having written a bunch and.. yay.. glich = no more wordz!

So yeah:

Wease: there you go paragraphs. have at


Pras thank you:)
I agree with the concept of anscestry being a form or reincarnation on a biological aspect. I also think there is some amazing stuff going on when a child is created, not only is it a half and half reproduction of its parents and all their genes but also in women having daughters it is like the closest we come to actual self replication.. weirdness huh?

As for the concept of fate and destiny.. that is a fine line.. I believe that there are certain "hopes" on behalf of the entity or entities that created life has for all of us, and some people may have larger roles they play in changing how things are to lead to the "goal" Fate or destiny seems to exist, the catch is free will, which makes fate more of a hope and less of a solid destiny.. does that make sense? maybe maybe not..

I uhh.....
Don't really know how to dip into this one. I have no pre-set vision of exactly what the afterlife may offer, so I don't ponder too awfully deeply about it. What I do imagine is something that would make perfect logical AND spiritual sense, which would fulfill us as beings in the perfect way, impart us with the appropriate amount of knowledge, perhaps grant us access to all of our earthly memories and experiences, allow us the fullest, deepest understanding of ourselves, who we really were and are by activating our complete consciousness instead of the limited version we have now, satisfy all of our questions and desires, reunite us with all that we've lost or become separated from, while perhaps compelling us to explore and create on our own in some way.
To use a metaphor, it'd be like when you play a videogame and you finish it, which unlocks a 'level editor' where you can create your own levels with awesome editing tools, maybe invite others to come and see what you've created, and vice-versa.... You may not ever understand the code or the underlying programming exactly, but your freedom and satisfaction would be greatly increased and provide you with infinite possibilities.
That's a really simple and not totally accurate example, but you get the idea. No matter what I may guess lies on the other side, in all likelihood, it'd be much more mind-blowing and ungraspable than we can really fathom. You know, like additional spatial dimensions, ten times the amount of possible colors, entirely new types of sound and physical sensation, new forms of communication and emotional transmission, telepathic/clairvoyant/telekinetic dreamworlds of blissful creative unity....you know, that kind of stuff.
Maybe you can be in 8 places at once and have orgasms with your eyeballs!?! Heh, not to be weird you know, but in Heaven there are limitless possibilities.....
Atleast I really, really hope so.

I enjoy pondering the perplexity of god, the afterlife and all the unexplainable possibilities of things we may never know..

it is far to much fun to try and figure it out..